In early October 2009 I ventured out into the big wide world and delivered a paper to the Rod Serling Conference in Ithaca, New York. Meeting and interviewing writer George Clayton Johnson was one of the biggest thrills of the conference for me and I'm glad to have a thirty minute record of our meeting. It would have been longer but the battery on my recorder gave up the ghost. Some samples from the interview were played out during my second guest spot on BBC radio but for the sake of time we really had to limit our selves to more directly Twilight Zone related material. What you'll find in the full interview are more of George's outrageous, yet incredibly persuasively stated, beliefs. At 80 years old he was as full of ideas as he was during his time in the Zone. Great man, great words.